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Moza R9 no FFB

Posted: Thu May 19, 2022 2:23 pm
by kacklappen23
Hi, I already had a more detailed description written up but it signed me out after I hit submit so this one's a bit shorter.

I built my own GIMX a while ago and used it to connect my T300 with various other peripherals (different pedals, shifter, wheels) to everything from a PS3 to PS5 (PS5 with extra drivehub ofc). I recently upgraded the wheelbase to a Moza R9 which seems to be incompatible with GIMX, I get steering but no FFB.

Log: https://pastebin.com/b5Gb7qp0
Log debug haptic: https://pastebin.com/fX5HS8L1

I also followed the DirectInput section of the wiki, bc I'm pretty sure that's were the problem lies:
FFB3 Output: https://pastebin.com/mby9Fceq
Capturefiles: https://puu.sh/J19tW/603e3b2b63.zip
No, none of the effects did anything.

I really hope I just missed something and it can be made to work without much hassle but I doubt it. I do I do hope this base gets support added in the future, if you need any info or tester for that I'll be glad to help.

Re: Moza R9 no FFB

Posted: Sun May 29, 2022 2:23 pm
by kacklappen23
I kept on tinkering with this and it still doesn't want to work with my new base. I thought it might be the Moza software/driver only allowing certain applications to use the FFB at one point but then I tried the "iRacing Force Feedback Test 1.72" software, also called "Wheelcheck", and it was able to interact with my wheelbase. So it definitely seems to be a GIMX-side problem. Here's the API Monitor capture if it helps, or if anyone cares: (https://puu.sh/J2XlF/9e73fd8adf.apmx86).

Re: Moza R9 no FFB

Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2022 7:54 pm
by txgarden
You can try this, save the following texts as a reg file, and then run it. I think it tries to emulate the ID of some logitech wheel by doing this. It works for me on PS3 GT6.

Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\MediaProperties\PrivateProperties\Joystick\OEM\VID_346e&PID_0002]
"OEMData"=hex:43,00,88,01,fe,00,00,00
"OEMName"="MOZA R9 Base"
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\MediaProperties\PrivateProperties\Joystick\OEM\VID_346e&PID_0002]
"OEMData"=hex:43,00,88,01,fe,00,00,00
"OEMName"="MOZA R9 Base"

To restore the original values, try the following:

Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\MediaProperties\PrivateProperties\Joystick\OEM\VID_346e&PID_0002]
"OEMData"=hex:03,00,88,11,80,00,00,00
"OEMName"="MOZA R9 Base"
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\MediaProperties\PrivateProperties\Joystick\OEM\VID_346e&PID_0002]
"OEMData"=hex:03,00,88,11,80,00,00,00
"OEMName"="MOZA R9 Base"

Re: Moza R9 no FFB

Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2023 10:06 pm
by mr_dilly
FWIW, this fixed the issue for me with a MOZA R5.

Re: Moza R9 no FFB

Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2023 4:36 am
by sizzlepole
mr_dilly wrote: Sun Mar 05, 2023 10:06 pm FWIW, this fixed the issue for me with a MOZA R5.
I also fixed the problem with MOZA R5. Thank!

Re: Moza R9 no FFB

Posted: Thu Jun 15, 2023 1:32 am
by gster
this fixed my problem with my R9, you're a legend.

Re: Moza R9 no FFB

Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2023 5:33 pm
by gster
txgarden wrote: Wed Jun 22, 2022 7:54 pm You can try this, save the following texts as a reg file, and then run it. I think it tries to emulate the ID of some logitech wheel by doing this. It works for me on PS3 GT6.

Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\MediaProperties\PrivateProperties\Joystick\OEM\VID_346e&PID_0002]
"OEMData"=hex:43,00,88,01,fe,00,00,00
"OEMName"="MOZA R9 Base"
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\MediaProperties\PrivateProperties\Joystick\OEM\VID_346e&PID_0002]
"OEMData"=hex:43,00,88,01,fe,00,00,00
"OEMName"="MOZA R9 Base"

To restore the original values, try the following:

Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\MediaProperties\PrivateProperties\Joystick\OEM\VID_346e&PID_0002]
"OEMData"=hex:03,00,88,11,80,00,00,00
"OEMName"="MOZA R9 Base"
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\MediaProperties\PrivateProperties\Joystick\OEM\VID_346e&PID_0002]
"OEMData"=hex:03,00,88,11,80,00,00,00
"OEMName"="MOZA R9 Base"
This worked for me on GT7 on ps5 with drivehub emulating ps4g29 and gt6 with emulator emulating g27 on GIMX. Do you know any way by chance of changing that data to a Thrustmaster TGT wheel or a Fanatec csw 2.5 ? I am trying to emulate that but when I do so on gt7 I get everything but FFB.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5x_Iv6paOZk&t=271s

This is what I am referring to when he switches to fanalogic mode using select and share buttons held together.

Re: Moza R9 no FFB

Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2023 9:16 am
by dante_3_16
txgarden wrote: Wed Jun 22, 2022 7:54 pm You can try this, save the following texts as a reg file, and then run it. I think it tries to emulate the ID of some logitech wheel by doing this. It works for me on PS3 GT6.

Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\MediaProperties\PrivateProperties\Joystick\OEM\VID_346e&PID_0002]
"OEMData"=hex:43,00,88,01,fe,00,00,00
"OEMName"="MOZA R9 Base"
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\MediaProperties\PrivateProperties\Joystick\OEM\VID_346e&PID_0002]
"OEMData"=hex:43,00,88,01,fe,00,00,00
"OEMName"="MOZA R9 Base"

To restore the original values, try the following:

Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\MediaProperties\PrivateProperties\Joystick\OEM\VID_346e&PID_0002]
"OEMData"=hex:03,00,88,11,80,00,00,00
"OEMName"="MOZA R9 Base"
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\MediaProperties\PrivateProperties\Joystick\OEM\VID_346e&PID_0002]
"OEMData"=hex:03,00,88,11,80,00,00,00
"OEMName"="MOZA R9 Base"
so this worked perfectly for me on my moza r9 on ps4 with no drivehub, only question i have is there any downside for pc sim racing if i do that, should i run the default values everytime i try to use my wheel on my pc?